Episode Swap! Real Organic Podcast
with Dave Chapman & JM Fortier
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About this episode
This week we’re sharing with you an episode of ‘The Real Organic Podcast’ in which JM sits down with Dave Chapman to discuss the potential of promoting a replicable, decentralized food and farming system that relies on people building relationships with both land and community, by engaging their powers of observation and connection.
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[4:01] History of Rodale Institute – J.I. Rodale story – Land Grant system
[16:41] Jeff’s past health problems and how it led him to farming
[28:05] Healthcare to farming connection – Doctors conference on a farm
[38:26] Research comparing organic to conventional ag – nutrient density of food
[49:56] “Regenerative Organic” and Rodale’s ROC certification
[55:58] Transitioning from conventional to organic – Rodale’s consultancy program & farmer training
[1:03:05] Cultural shift of people going back to the land – Food has energy and meaning
[1:13:20] Food as medicine – meal at the Old Mill
[1:22:54] Critics of organic farming and how they misuse science
[1:29:32] “The earth is healing us, not the other way around.”
[1:34:09] Jeff’s “ikigai” (reason for getting out of bed in the morning)
[1:37:43] The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari by Robin Sharma
[1:39:34] The miracle that is soil